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Caveat emptor? Don't think so

By Frank Male

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Published: Monday, May 4, 2009

Updated: Monday, May 4, 2009

The push for legalizing marijuana has some star power behind it. From staunch conservatives like the late William Buckley, Jr. to libertarians like the late Milton Friedman, from Representative Barney Frank to musician Carlos Santana, public figures have lined up to legalize taking a toke.

Why do I, along with 60 percent of Americans, disagree? Although I can't speak for everyone, I think I can boil it down to a few factors. Legalization will increase government bureaucracy even more, it will increase the availability of drugs to underaged people and it will not seriously help crime or abuse rates.

Liberals dislike expansion of the government into the private sphere, while conservatives dislike its market-distorting effects and libertarians just hate it all. Well, we would get to see all sorts of bloated government if marijuana was legalized.

First, legalizing marijuana wouldn't mean the end of to the War on Drugs. There are several other drugs out there for the government to fight. Channels used for transporting marijuana are also used to move heavier drugs. Also, considering the high taxes that would undoubtedly be enforced on the marijuana trade, illegal operations could stay in business by undercutting the legal marketplace.

Second, regulatory agencies would inevitably spring up. Alcohol, tobacco and even children's toys are regulated by the federal government, and marijuana will certainly not get off the hook. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms would get a name change and another job to screw up.

Speaking of ATF, legalizing marijuana would make it easier for minors to access and abuse the drug. Right now underage drinking is a multibillion dollar market, so imagine how underage marijuana usage would end up. And for the most part, drug use starts in adolescence.

Results from the 2004 National Survey on Drug Use and Health show that "adults who had first used substances at a younger age were more likely to be classified with dependence or abuse than adults who initiated use at a later age."

The tobacco industry has been accused of targeting underaged people because minors are more easily bated by tobacco than adults. This also holds true for drugs such as marijuana. Marijuana is nothing we want around kids, and legalizing it would certainly move the two menaces closer.

Let's be honest: Marijuana is not an innocent, harmless drug which does nothing wrong. It does nothing good to your lungs, works as a great de-motivator and can ruin your life. I have a friend who points out that if people were all smoking pot, they would never get into fights or do ridiculously stupid things. This might be true, but if everyone was smoking pot, no one would be doing anything else, either.

Contending that legalization would not increase marijuana use does not hold water. To paraphrase "Field Of Dreams," if you legalize it, they will come. Marijuana use would increase just as alcohol use jumped up after Prohibition ended.

Every marijuana advocate loves to bring up the Netherlands to show how great legalization is for a country. If it works that well, then why haven't other European countries followed its lead in the last three decades? Even the Dutch government has avoided actually legalizing marijuana, instead leaving it technically illegal since taking the policy of a "gedogen" - blind eye - towards weed. Surely 33 years of successful policy would have been expanded and exported to other countries.

Legalizing marijuana would not end the War on Drugs, but would increase government and create more trouble. We already have alcohol and tobacco around, why bring another drug into the mix?

Let the Dutch have their Mary Jane. I prefer my bourbon.

Frank Male is a senior in physics, political science and toolology. Please send comments to opinion@spub.ksu.edu.

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35 comments

Your name
Fri May 8 2009 11:00
Amused,
Thank you for bringing your compassion and consideration into this comment thread. You really opened up my mind (and my heart) regarding all of the world's problems. Just to think, here I was just an angry pot smoker who didn't have a care in the world aside from being able to get high legally. This viscous, highly coordinated attack required every one of us to come out of the woodwork and spend many hours vigorously researching legal and medical journals in hopes to counter any one of Mr. Male's fallacies and or very ironic opinions.

Now here's your chance to counter any one of the posted rebuttals, but no, you would rather stand up in the face of reason and make a sweeping assumption simply because some people won't allow such ridiculous things to go undisputed. Your response was off topic, poorly written, and offered zero help to Mr. Male.

Amused
Fri May 8 2009 00:55
Apparently all the angry pot smokers have united against an opinion article. Just think what would happen if people cared that much about who they elect into public office, going to class, or lack of sanitation in developing countries. We would have a country of passionate voters, a college full of 4.0 students, and a world in which the majority of children do not die from fecal matter-related diseases. It is sad that they are only passionate about their legalized right to get high.
Opera Bed
Thu May 7 2009 21:20
To dispute your claim, I point you to the statistic that says that "1 in 4 Americans will die in their lifetime" and the statistic that says "1 in 4 Americans doesn't smoke weed". I think the correlation is undeniable.
Super-Motivated Mudkip
Thu May 7 2009 21:12
this made me so angry with all your lies and propaganda that i put down my weed and got motivated to write a lengthy response contradicting your every statement....then i looked at the joint i had just set down....and figured whats the point and started smoking it again and then i ....
posted vvv that
Thu May 7 2009 13:07
Drunken driving accidents kill thousands, yet the only negative sanction that comes from driving drunk is a night in jail and a license revocation. I have heard of many accounts of obviously drunk drivers getting cited for driving with their headlights off while the officer, instead of arresting the driver, turns a blind eye and lets him or her continue onward. While I see that you prefer bourbon as your poison of choice, do you also prefer the blackouts, the dizziness, the nights spent praying to the Porcelain Gods, swearing you’ll never drink again, the public indecency and embarrassment and possible death from having too much to drink? I don’t. Oh, you’re hungover and don’t want to talk about this? I understand, come hit this joint and see if you don’t start to feel better..

continuing the post below vvv

Your name
Thu May 7 2009 12:36
I am not sure what kind of research you did, or if you just decided to sit down at the computer and talk about what you ‘know’, but some of the things you said just do not make sense. You said, “It will increase the availability of drugs to underage people and it will not seriously help crime or abuse rates.” It will increase the availability no more than alcohol and tobacco are already available. I can almost guarantee that if the federal government is going to allow a drug that has been feared for so long, there will be strict regulations and harsh punishments for the people that refuse to obey these laws. As it is now, marijuana is easier to obtain than alcohol or cigarettes, and that is for one reason: the marijuana industry does not have an age restriction. Drug dealers do not care how old the buyer is, they only care that they are getting their money. Furthermore, you go on to say, “Also, considering the high taxes that would undoubtedly be enforced on the marijuana trade, illegal operations could stay in business by undercutting the legal marketplace.” If this is true, where are the underground alcohol market and the underground tobacco market, undercutting the liquor stores and gas stations? The cost is too large to undercut the market, with the sin taxes and such, and marijuana will follow suit. With the industrialization of marijuana, as will surely happen, big business will be able to take the price further and further down as more and more is made, and while the black market is still charging the prices to accommodate for smugglers and the risk of being caught, they will have to charge more or go the legal route. If there is a legal, safe, money-making option, people will be more likely to take the legal route. Then, you continue on with, “Legalizing marijuana would make it easier for minors to access and abuse the drug. Right now underage drinking is a multibillion dollar market, so imagine how underage marijuana usage would end up.” Marijuana use is already occurring in high schools throughout the nation, and while I do not think that legalized marijuana would help this situation, I think an illegal one helps less. When polled, teenagers in high school said that it was easier to get marijuana than alcohol or tobacco. This should not surprise you. Like I said earlier, with strict regulation and harsh enforcement of the law involving legal enterprise, marijuana will be one of the drugs that is hard to get, just like alcohol and tobacco. You also add, “And for the most part, drug use starts in adolescence.” That is probably correct, but you didn’t specify what drugs. Marijuana is not the sole offender in this statement. Alcohol and tobacco are also large, if not larger than marijuana, problems in underage teenagers. Here is your ‘honest’ statement: “Marijuana is not an innocent, harmless drug which does nothing wrong. It does nothing good to your lungs, works as a great de-motivator and can ruin your life.” So much for honesty. Marijuana, according to the DEA Chief Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young, “…in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man.” Is your alcohol and tobacco safe? Alcohol and tobacco kill hundreds of thousands annually, including the innocents that are the victims of a drunk driving accident or second hand smoke, and yet marijuana has never killed one single person that we know of. Though the inhaling of the smoke from burnt plant matter is harmful, there are other ways to use cannabis; vaporizers and edibles are both much safer alternatives, with edibles not requiring heat outside of the cooking itself, and thus requiring no interaction with the lungs. Marijuana is not a ‘great de-motivator’ for all. Though it is a de-motivator for some, it only aids in their already prevalent laziness, and for many, many people it is not a de-motivator. Doctors, lawyers, nurses, bankers, stock brokers, scientists…there are potheads that are in every one of those professions, and that’s not even all of the ones that could be named. The de-motivation is a choice that some blame on the marijuana because they can’t admit that they made the choice to be lazy. I am a college student, and I smoke marijuana daily. I have not missed a day of class or work because I was high and lazy, and I have been high the whole time while writing this. Marijuana alone will not ruin your life. I challenge you to find cases where marijuana ruined a life and the law was not involved. Someone lost their financial aid? Lost their job? Was thrown in prison for years? This is all because of the prohibition of a drug that has killed none and helped many. One run-in with the law while possessing marijuana can lead to all of these things, along with many other negative consequences. Alcohol would be the life-ruining substance, if I had to pick one. Drunken driving accidents kill thousands, yet the only negative sanction that comes from driving drunk is a night in jail and a...
Hannibal of Carnage
Thu May 7 2009 01:23
It seems others have done quite well in refuting this terrible pseudo-ONDCP drivel with valid sources, so I'll spare myself the next hour. That said, you should have entitled this piece "Caveat lector? I definitely think so!" TOOLology, indeed!
Dont tread on me
Wed May 6 2009 21:40
Smoking Pot actually decreases your risk for lung cancer.

Why add another drug? Too late it is already here, everyone who wants it can and will get it regardless of legality.

It is easier to obtain that tobacco or alcohol because dealers don't id.

De-motivational syndrome? The past three presidents consumed cannabis, as well as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James
Monroe, Andrew Jackson, Zachary Taylor and Franklin Pierce, and Ben Franklin. After Abe Lincoln's assassination, his wife was prescribed
hashish for her nerves. John F. Kennedy was known to smoke marijuana
for his back pain and to favor legalization. (Washington farm journals,
Jefferson diaries, national archives, etc.) Queen Victoria was prescribed cannabis for her menstrual cramps.

RevRayGreen
Wed May 6 2009 18:01
I'll live many years beyond your liver enjoying cannabis Mr. Frank Male while you will be six-feet under from your Bourbon.

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phoggy jay
Wed May 6 2009 17:48
"Good article, you support your opinion well."

-(The name was left blank)

This first comment was made on Mon May 4, 2009 at 12:02. Anyone else think this comment was posted by Frank Male?

What a tool.

Bruce Hulvey
Wed May 6 2009 14:45
Somehow I doubt "Frank Male" even exists. I am even more doubtful that he will post here to either defend or counter any arguments made by us "simple folk".

His entire argument looks like a bot ran across the net and copied and pasted as much propaganda as it possibly could and then compiled this pile, for lack of a better description.

Maybe a bit too many bourbons while you were writing this, huh Frank?

Sixty Percent? Are you kidding? Every major poll I've seen contradicts this figure- as of this year. And certainly sixty percent isn't a vast majority. No, not everyone agrees with you and some of those people that are supposedly in agreement with you could easily be swayed with truth, honesty and freedom to do so without being ostracized.

Legalizing cannabis, we're going to call it that from now on instead of the derogatory and racist name: marijuana, would not end the drug war. However, it would go a long way in increasing the level of trust between police and the general public. Not to mention trust from children who will figure out that they have been lied to about cannabis from the get go.

I would agree that certain portions of our government will grow. I also would like to add that other portions would fade out. You conveniently left that out. I am for a smaller, smarter government and as far as I'm concerned as long as cannabis is illegal we won't have that. Consider prisons and the prison guard unions, legalizing would certainly affect them. Are they who you are trying to protect? Are you satisfied that we are THE MOST INCARCERATED people on earth? Is this a product we as Americans can be proud of? I'm not, are you?

I will also agree that smoking cannabis instead of taking care of all the things in life that present a challenge is not a good thing. And I would imagine that this emotional type of speech does reach certain people. I'll let you in on something- there are currently twenty million people who smoke cannabis right now. Probably more if they could all tell the truth. Obviously a great many of them do so without harming anyone or themselves. And if you are so concerned about people engaging in activities that are harmful then start preaching about rock climbing, driving a car or a great number of activities where someone could do harm. Put it to you this way- I can stop by the alcohol store on my way home and purchase enough to kill myself with, can't say the same for cannabis, can you?

"Marijuana use would increase just as alcohol use jumped up after Prohibition ended"

Wrong. Just plain wrong. After reading many a factual paper on alcohol prohibition, I can only come to the conclusion that it may have ever so slightly affected the drinking population. Al Capone would argue you to death on this one. And it's not so much of a stretch of logic to say that it is happening today. As for you assumption that cannabis USE would increase, well you are assuming, as there really isn't anything to base any numbers on. Are we to continue this insanity because of your assumptions?

I won't bring up the Netherlands. However I would like to mention Portugal. Seems like they are quite successful in their campaign. Also seems like Mexico is jumping on the bandwagon. It's only a matter of time before the world just simply ignores all the U.N. / U.S.A. policies on cannabis, then what?

"Legalizing marijuana would not end the War on Drugs, but would increase government and create more trouble. We already have alcohol and tobacco around, why bring another drug into the mix?"

You forgot Percocet and the hundreds of other addictive man-made painkillers out there that people frequently O.D on. Repeating the same thing over and over will not make it any more correct. I can see through this line of thinking and so can a large portion of your readers.

Why bring up alcohol and cigarettes in this conversation? This isn't about that at all. This is about personal freedom. After all, and I know how much this bothers people like you, there is a thing called FREE WILL. No law in the world is going to stop that. You and people like you have had forty years and trillions of dollars, not to mention all of the police officers who lose their lives over a plant, to prove it. You have failed, epically.

You certainly have the credentials, assuming you're a real person and not just some housewife earning a paycheck to pass around propaganda. They do exist, I know a few. Google it they might be hiring.

Oh, and have another bourbon on me.

DB Cooper
Wed May 6 2009 13:25
Looking over your shoulder-
I fail to see how this is a polarizing political issue. I'm a conservative who believes in personal freedom and fiscal responsibility and you're the one saying that pot is worth spending millions of dollars on enforcing laws that are futile in addition to paying to keep those people incarcerated. The number one cash crop in the country is going to continue to be produced regardless of whether or not it's legal. Now we can either continue to waste money trying to fight it, or we can use it to balance the budget and take the funding away from the Mexican cartels. How many economists need to come forward and say this before you understand?
Based on your comments regarding homosexuals I'm guessing you probably would like to lock them up as well. Shouldn't you be protesting a soldier's funeral somewhere? Do me a favor and sterilize yourself.
dp
Wed May 6 2009 00:21
keep you burbon and rot your liver so we don't have to read any more ridiculous articles
Ray
Tue May 5 2009 21:36
So throwing people in jail for choosing cannabis instead of alcohol, which is far more dangerous, is good?
Prohibition of the 1930s did not work, you can not force people to YOUR morale view.
Drug abuse should be treated as a health issue and not a criminal issue. You can kill all the brain cells you want with your bourbon... I don't drink I don't want to throw you in jail for it either. I should not be a criminal for making a smarter, safer choice.
Your name
Tue May 5 2009 14:46
I smoked pot and now I'm getting a Masters of science. I are failure?
Your name
Tue May 5 2009 11:50
Just saw this and was pleased by the number of intelligent responses. No need to beat these points into the ground so I'll just say - Nice job friends!
Looking over your shoulder
Tue May 5 2009 11:39
Arguing the legalization of yet one more vice because other vices are legal is a ridiculous position from which to argue. "We allow nine bad things to happen, so we should allow a tenth" - how stupid does that sound? People that want to legalize mary jane are merely people that do MJ already - they just want the rest of us to no longer "look down" upon them. It's the same argument used by homosexuals for their perverse lifestyle. People want to do what's wrong, but have the rest of us say it's all right. And when the libs are called on it, they simply reduce their argument to name-calling and regarding any opposition to be of less intelligence. That's because they CAN'T argue doing something they know to be wrong from a valid intelligent position.
Your name
Tue May 5 2009 11:14
The arguement of the "MORALITY" of Marijuana by the right and left wings and ESPECIALLY THE BIBLE BELT is a joke. This countries economy was helped built by the growing and harvesting of Tobacco. Not the most MORAL of substances however if it never existed would the United States? Who knows BUT legalizing Marijuana would pump billions of billions of dollars into our economy annually. It would also save billions of billions of dollars annually which are foolishly spent to go after, arrest, prosecute and incarcerate non violent citizens. Not to mention how much safer we'd all be thanks to a massive hit to the Mexican Drug Cartels, AND every street gang in the country. I don't bring up medical marijuana because there is no logical debate. It'd be like debating whether bed pans are necessary to bed stricken patients.
DJ Florida
Tue May 5 2009 10:26
Right now ANY kid can walk up to a drug dealer and buy marijuana. Do you think the drug dealer asks the child for I.D. ? Of course not! For this reason alone marijuana needs to be legalaized and REGULATED to make it HARDER for kids to get it. You ask any kid and they will tell you that buying weed is by far much easier then buying alcohol which is only because it is on the black market.
As you enjoy your Bourbon sir remember, Prohibition was tried aleady and nothing good came of it. Instead there was a lot of violence much like what we are seeing in Mexico right now.

Is doing drugs ok? No of course not! But this war on drugs is doing by far more bad then good.

Justin
Tue May 5 2009 10:09
Pot was available to me when i was in middle school and it is illegal so how would legalizing it make it any easier. Some of the best pot ive smoked was stuff i bought in school!






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