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Commission votes 3-2 against city-wide smoking ban

By By Justin Nutter

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Published: Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Updated: Wednesday, August 27, 2008

 

By Justin Nutter
Kansas State Collegian

    The Manhattan Board of Commissioners declined a proposed ordinance that would have banned smoking in public places and places of employment in the City of Manhattan.
    The commission gathered for a special meeting at 7 p.m. Tuesday to discuss the ordinance. City Attorney Bill Frost opened the meeting by discussing the possible outcomes.
    “We essentially have one of two options,” Frost said. “We can elect to pass the ordinance as it was submitted, or we can pass a resolution to submit the ordinance to a vote on the Nov. 4 ballot.”
    Frost said the ordinance did not appear to contain any legal issues in its presented form.
    “From what we can tell, there are no constitutional concerns with the ordinance the way it was proposed,” he said.
    Stan Watt, Manhattan resident, spoke on behalf of the petitioning party and gave a presentation that covered the basics of the ordinance. He emphasized several times that the ban was not proposed because citizens were concerned about related economical issues. 
    “I want to stress that this is solely a health issue and not a business issue,” Watt said. “People have the right to smoke if they want, but they don’t have the right to force innocent people to breath the toxic fumes that they’re creating.”
    Watt ended his presentation by stating that the city had already shown that it preferred the ordinance.
    “This is a good, solid, fair ordinance,” he said. “It provides equal protection for everyone and the community wants it.”
    After Watt’s presentation, citizens were allowed to voice their opinions on the ordinance. A large number of citizens, including various Manhattan business owners, spoke to the board. There was no clear consensus among those who spoke.
    “Consequences of secondhand smoke cannot be argued,” said Lydia Peele, K-State student body president. “It would be in the best interest of all Kansas State students to pass this ordinance.”
    Dr. Steve Short, lung doctor at Mercy Regional Health Center, expressed his agreement with Peele.
    “Restaurant and bar
owners should see their employees’ health as a huge benefit,” he said. “A non-smoking section in a restaurant isn’t really non-smoking if there’s still smoke in the environment.”
    All of the business owners who spoke at the meeting wanted the ordinance defeated.
    “I’m not here to defend smokers or smoking, but I’m here to defend the freedom of choice that this country was founded on,” said Russell Loub, owner and operator of the Little Apple Brewing Co.
    Keith Eyestone, president of the Aggieville Business Association, agreed with Loub, saying the ordinance was poorly constructed.
    “We disagree with the ordinance as a whole,” Eyestone said. “We disagree with the way it was written.”
    Dee Ross, Manhattan resident, expressed his disgust with the proposal, saying that by passing the ordinance, the commission would be doing an injustice to the U.S.
    “How dare you look a soldier or veteran in the face and tell him thank you for his service to this country,” Ross said. “When you say the Pledge of Allegiance, do you forget to say ‘With liberty and justice for all?’” Ross appeared to become increasingly upset as he spoke, and he ended  with a gesture that sent the audience into a buzz.
    “Let me end by giving you socialist fascists the New York salute you deserve,” said Ross as he waved his middle finger in the air.
    The ordinance failed in a 2-3 vote by the commissioners. The vote to put the ordinance on the Nov. 4 ballot passed by unanimous decision.

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8 comments
Kat
Wed Oct 8 2008 00:18
This ordinance seems way too strict to pass. Not being allowed to smoke in any public place? No smoking patios/porches, no stepping outside of the bar or sitting in the smoking section of a restaurant? You mean on my break at work, I'd have to run out to the parking lot, into my car and light up? I wonder when someone will try and pass a no screaming children in public places ordinance...
K. S.
Thu Sep 18 2008 01:43
I'm from lawrence, a non-smoking city and yes, it has hurt some businesses but others have expanded to accommodate the ordinance. Some people still complain about smoking porches which I think is just ridiculous, but there is a valid point that the experience of Aggieville and social life would most likely suffer if smoking were banned.
Your name
Fri Sep 5 2008 09:42
Not cracking down on smoking will cost the city in tourism and economic development and just bad public policy. The City Commission better re-vote on this one. Despite all the lies---business thrives without smoke.
Your name
Fri Aug 29 2008 13:43
I don't believe people who frequent bars are "innocent" as Stan Watt says. Passing an ordinance such as this will force a lot of smokers out onto the sidewalk where more "innocent" people may be walking.
Debbie
Thu Aug 28 2008 13:06
The vote was 3-2 to NOT enact the ordinance. There was a subsequent vote (5-0) to approve first reading of a resolution to place the issue on the ballot on November 5 so the public can decide.
Your name
Wed Aug 27 2008 18:49
How did the commissioners vote?
Your name
Wed Aug 27 2008 15:33
hmm bunch of classic midwestern red necks...they all speak the same language-"either you are with us or against the U.S"
Get Out and Vote
Wed Aug 27 2008 14:32
Wow...can we say ignorant and bitter? How dare HE accuse people of not supporting soldiers or veterans, just because they want to be in a healthier environment?! That is unbelievable.

They banned smoking in my hometown as well, and people were upset at first, but they're over it now, and there has been very little to no decrease in business.

Get a grip. It's 2008.







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