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Games considered violent banned on campus

Published: Thursday, March 11, 2010

Updated: Thursday, March 11, 2010 07:03

3-11-10

Tommy Theis

HvZ players cross the street at the crosswalk near Goodnow. The Campus Activities Board has banned games that involve simulated shooting, stalking, ambushing or anything else that would be seen as violent or intimidating.

A new policy prohibiting violent or intimidating games that are played on campus has been enacted by the Campus Activities Board. The board is part of the Student Governing Association and includes three SGA members, said Annie Oliver, speaker pro tempore of the Student Senate.

The policy, Chapter 8590 of the K-State Policies and Procedures Manual, prohibits games and activities that include: "The act or simulated act of shooting objects at another person, the act or simulated act of stalking or ambushing others and other acts or simulated acts that can be seen by a reasonable observer as violent or intimidating."

Possible sanctions for playing these games include "removal from campus, being banned from campus, suspension or expulsion."

The policy was instated for the safety of people on campus who are not participating in games, such as visitors and faculty. Oliver said the policy originated when the university administration became concerned with some of the games that were played on campus.

Some of these games include "Humans versus Zombies (HvZ)" and "Fugitive." The games are usually organized by students. Jesse Riggs, senior in mass communication and organizer for HvZ, said he had no knowledge of the policy when it was enacted.

In HvZ, over 100 players participate in a week-long, 24/7 competition. Riggs calls the game a "moderated game of tag" and said the status of all the contestants is tracked via a Web site.

Members of the group wear armbands if they are human and zombies don headbands to distinguish the opposing sides from one another. Humans use Nerf blasters to fend off zombies as the zombies try to tag the humans.

He said that before they began playing the game during the fall semester of 2007, they approached the campus administration to ensure the game was within acceptable campus policies. Riggs said that last fall he again spoke about the game with Pat Bosco, vice president of student life, who subsequently forwarded the game rules to Gayle Spencer, assistant dean of student life and coordinator for OSAS.

Riggs never heard back from Spencer, he said, until after the policy was created and he contacted Spencer himself.

"This policy was enacted without the knowledge of the affected parties," Riggs said. "We can't address concerns unless we know about them."

Every effort is made to play the game away from nonparticipants, he said, and dart blasters are never used within campus buildings.

Spencer said that she had "competent staff handling it" and apologized to Riggs if she had not talked to him regarding the issue.

Michael Proctor, senior in finance, leads the Fugitive game on campus. The game is on its third year at K-State.

"I can understand why they would put a policy like this in place," Proctor said. "We notified campus security officials before we played and they're at the point where they don't really care."

The game involves a group of "cops" staking out positions throughout campus. They attempt to stop the "fugitives" as they try and make it from one end of campus to the other.

He said a faculty advisor was

willing to join to make the group an official campus club, but said that with the new policy, that is not likely to happen.

Like in HvZ, the participants in Fugitive are also marked by special clothing artifacts and they contain the game to the campus grounds so they do not trespass on private property, Proctor said.

"When games like these are being played at night, we are concerned that students playing the game or just walking on campus may be in danger," Oliver said. "This policy does not aim to terminate these games by any means, it simply asks participants to play elsewhere."

Riggs asked the Senate to consider legislation to repeal the policy or pass legislation that would allow organized gaming to continue on campus.

Senator Mark Savoy, senior in sociology and political science, said he feels like the policy is needed to protect the university from lawsuits. However, he also feels that HvZ and Fugitive are not violent games if they are considered as tag.

"I don't feel like they should take these away from students," Savoy said. "I think it would be worthwhile if SGA rethought the policy and potentially allowed some games on campus."

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22 comments

Anonymous
Sun Mar 14 2010 15:05
Just take your fun games off campus...you don't always get what you want. Go to camp if you want to play. I've been out of school for 2 years and...guess what?? That's right - I can't play these games at the engineering firm either.
Just saying ...
Fri Mar 12 2010 14:45
" I am intimidated by the large groups of (people). Can we ban them too?"

Nope--not according to this policy--unless their doing so is part of a game or activity, and the intimidation is part of the tactics of the game.

I think that your intimidation would be better solved by your getting counseling. :o) Just saying!

Anonymous
Fri Mar 12 2010 13:33
Soooo... I am intimidated by the large groups of Frat boys and Sorority girls that all dress alike and wander the campus in packs, invade the Union from 11 to 2, and generally don't contribute to the student body's 'well being'. Can we ban them too?
Anonymous
Fri Mar 12 2010 13:32
In the past, present, or future will KSU Theater department ever perform an "act or simulated act of shooting an object at another person?"

In the past, present, or future will KSU cheer sqaud ever perform the "act or simulated act of shooting(launching from a CO2 Air gun) a object(T-Shirt) at another person(or a whole crowd of people)?"

In the past, present, or future will KSU students ever perform the "act or sumulated act of having fun on campus?" Oh... wait a minute... that's not in the policy... yet.

Admins?
Fri Mar 12 2010 12:35
This doesn't make sense.
If admins are concerned about hypothetical stupid people doing stupid things, then why don't they ban stupid people doing stupid things on campus? Why are they banning the smart people from doing smart things on campus?
I feel that there is a laziness when it comes to administration being proactively involved with these student groups to reach a reasonable compromise. Who pays their salaries? Oh, yeah, students!
ScaredToWalkOnCampus
Fri Mar 12 2010 12:29
i don't feel safe walking on campus when there are dudes running around throwing disc golf discs. Have you ever been hit by one of those things? Maybe administration should ban that kind of fun as well. Not!
Just saying . . .
Fri Mar 12 2010 11:48
In response to "SGA" below: According to the new policy, prohibited are "Other acts or simulated acts that can be seen by a reasonable observer as violent or intimidating." That doesn't mean that you have to be intimidated--you just have to say, "Hey, I think someone could be intimidated by that." In the case of football, I agree, any reasonable observer would see that game as violent or intimidating.
Sara Romayne
Thu Mar 11 2010 20:24
If you're referring to Jesse, he does work for the collegian, but he is literally the top guy running HvZ (others help run it, but he was elected by the moderators to be the #1 for the last couple years). They also have input from the other side of the story. I thought it was a very well balanced article, and I think the writer strove to be neutral in a potentially charged issue. Kudos Danny Davis.
Yo
Thu Mar 11 2010 20:22
In reference to the post by "Hmm", Jesse Riggs is the top moderator for HvZ. Without him, there hardly wouldn't be a game. Try talking to him yourself, instead of making incorrect assumptions.
Wildcat
Thu Mar 11 2010 20:19
You know what I think.....I think Michael may have something here.....and I think this policy may be violating the KSU SGA Constitutional rights of the student body. I think asking the Tribunal for an interpretation would not be a bad idea.
Anonymous
Thu Mar 11 2010 20:15
They started with the marching band in the fall of '08 and when they couldn't get get rid of that group, they looked around to see if they could get rid of anything else that students enjoy. What does the 'S' stand for in SGA...? oh yeah, the STUDENTS! Next thing you know, SGA will be trying to rid the campus of all students in general...wonder how that's going to work out for them....
Michael Proctor
Thu Mar 11 2010 19:29
The direction that has been taken to enact this policy does worry me. This policy muffles the creative energy of students, bypasses students' rights and provides precedent to future policy. Certainly there is a way to promote a creative forum of exchange to work through these issues rather than usurping the system with a mere mirage or students' rights. Threats of "being banned from campus, suspension or expulsion" do not seem to facilitate an open environment where minority groups are empowered. Rather, they are shown the door.

I would imagine most students are part of some small and focused group on campus. Where rights of one niche group of students are cast aside, all members of all small groups should pay attention. With such a precedent, they may be next.

My expectation is that the university experience here at K-State be one of all-inclusive learning and support of its students and their endeavors. Squashing a group when it does not seem, to onlookers, to add any social capital to the student body is not a healthy way of interfacing with students. A campus that works WITH groups is one I would be most proud to attend.

SGA
Thu Mar 11 2010 18:32
"Just asking"----You have to understand that the current government of SGA , by majority, does not CARE ABOUT YOU. This government, by majority, is composed of fraternity and sorority people who only care about their own personal ambitions, helping each other out to win elections, and have this sort of train of thought where they think they can do whatever the hell they want. This is not the first time they will violate the Constitution, nor, I'm sure, will be the last. Not one person in the senate, other than a few, like George Weston and myself, do really care about upholding the what we swore to preserve, protect, and defend.

This has to be about the most pathetic piece of legislation I have ever seen in my life and I agree with an anonymous comment below where he/she says that sure, let's wait until Fall semester so we can start making complaints about football being so dangerous. It is quite ridiculous. Furthermore, we don't have an impartial and good advisor for SGA at OSAS.....you know who she is.....and she seems to have done nothing but help these "crooks" get their way somehow. The only thing they haven't been able to accomplish is passing the unconstitutional elections bills as thankfully we have a competent group of judges in the Tribunal who cared about upholding the Constitution, unlike some. As senators, some of us are trying extremely hard to fight it, but it is not a simple task. We will continue to work with people like George Weston to insure that our Constitution becomes upheld but right now, we are in nothing more, than a crisis were people are violating the law.

Anonymous
Thu Mar 11 2010 17:57
Don't be a P
Keep playing HvZ
Just Saying
Thu Mar 11 2010 16:03
From the K-State student constitution:
Article XII Student Rights
1201. The following rights are guaranteed to students:
D. The right to free and timely access to statements of policy which affect students; the university
therefore, should publish policies affecting students.

When was this policy put into action? No notice is is not timely notice or access!
Why weren't students involved in this policy's creation since violation of it could result in a conduct violation?
Where is student government in all of this?

Just asking . . .
Thu Mar 11 2010 15:52
From the K-State student constitution:
Article XII Student Rights
1201. The following rights are guaranteed to students:
D. The right to free and timely access to statements of policy which affect students; the university
therefore, should publish policies affecting students.

When was this policy put into action? No notice is is not timely notice or access!
Why weren't students involved in this policy's creation since violation of it could result in a conduct violation?
Where is student government in all of this?

Just asking . . .
Thu Mar 11 2010 15:51
From the K-State student constitution:
Article XII Student Rights
1201. The following rights are guaranteed to students:
D. The right to free and timely access to statements of policy which affect students; the university
therefore, should publish policies affecting students.

When was this policy put into action? No notice is is not timely notice or access!
Why weren't students involved in this policy's creation since violation of it could result in a conduct violation?
Where is student government in all of this?

Porter
Thu Mar 11 2010 13:14
Simulated acts of violence are intolerable and banned, while ROTC, an organization that trains K-State students to engage in real violence as a necessary part of their future career, is supported on campus. Excellent!

Students: don't roll over for this crap. Keep playing. If everyone just keeps playing, it will be nearly impossible to enforce this new rule.

The SGA is obviously not working on behalf of the students in this case. Who do they think they are saving or protecting? Way to trade fun and freedom for the semblance of safety.

Anonymous
Thu Mar 11 2010 09:39
Gayle Spencer, YET AGAIN, gets in the way and tries to make senseless policies and tries to control SGA members. SHE NEEDS TO GO!!! I'm so SICK of her! On another note, this policy has to be about the biggest pile of crap I have ever seen. But you know what, next time I go watch a football game or something, I'm going to file a complaint about that because I think those games are violent and dangerous too! "Competent people" Gayle!? Obviously not!
Cato
Thu Mar 11 2010 09:31
This is an absurdity, and I think everyone responsible for the legislation knows it.






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