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Local church offers ministry for gay community

By Jason Miller

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Published: Wednesday, December 9, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, December 9, 2009

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In what looks like a home office, Deb Kluttz, the executive pastor of Westview Community Church, sits behind her desk. Around the room are photos of her family, inspirational quotes and knickknacks that hint at a chocolate addiction. Surrounded by three bookshelves, bursting with counseling, wellness and religious texts, she leans forward to discuss the church’s view of homosexuality.

“Homosexuality — really we would call that sexual brokenness, particularly from a church’s perspective,” Kluttz said.

She defined the “sexually broken” as people who have been harmed through adverse sexual behaviors, particularly “sexual abuse, rape, molestation, even getting into sexual addiction.”

Unique among area churches, Westview Community Church has taken Kluttz’s views and used it to develop an outreach program for Manhattanites.

Westview offers a program called “Living Waters” for those who are conflicted about their sexuality. Living Waters is a 20-lesson program for people seeking healing in areas of “sexual and relational brokenness.” It is part of a worldwide initiative started by Desert Streams Ministries, which is headquartered in Kansas City, Mo.

“It’s important for people to go to therapy and do the one-on-one thing,” Kluttz said. “It still makes it very personal and private and I think that needs to be done too, but when you get into a support recovery group, there is another piece that can be very, very healing.”

Andy Comiskey, founder and director of Desert Stream Ministries, was a homosexual at one time but has since authored four books about avoiding homosexual relationships. He is now married with children. Desert Stream Ministries did not respond to an interview request.

Westview held its first local Living Waters program last year and has scheduled another session to begin in January 2010.

“We are the only one in Kansas that is doing it,” Kluttz said.

Due to the sensitive issues addressed in the counseling, the specific times and locations are withheld by the church to protect the identities of participants.

The program is part of Recovery Ministries offered at Westview. Recovery Ministries offer a variety of programs ranging from a women’s support group to pre-engagement and premarital counseling.

Jenine Reimer, a former Living Waters small group leader, said the idea to bring the program to Westview was presented to Kluttz by Anita Peterman, a member of the congregation and a former employee of Living Waters. Peterman did not respond to requests for an interview.

Homosexuality and sexual brokenness [being homosexual] are issues that are clear to the church, Kluttz said, adding that people who are homosexual would not be operating as their “true self, not the way God created them to function.”

Dusty Garner, senior in political science, said he believes he functions as he should and is not surprised Manhattan has a local “reparative therapy” counseling program. He is a leader in the local community for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning and intersex people.

Garner said he routinely hears of churches offering programs to “fix” those born with a same-sex orientation. He said LGBTQI issues are especially tough for young adults who are raised in a conservative or religious area like Kansas.

“I think that when you are young and impressionable, you’re raised in your religion generally because that is what your family has practiced,” Garner said. “If your family is telling you what you are doing is wrong, then you’re left with these deep inner conflicts that make you inherently feel like less of a person.”

Organized religion is not the only area of life that can make a member of the LGBTQI community feel inferior. The Kansas state government has also been slow to recognize the community in a political and legal sense.

Updated in July 2009, The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force lists Kansas as one of the states lacking nondiscrimination laws based on sexual orientation or gender identity. While Kansas does offer hate crime laws, it only protects against sexual orientation, failing to encompass crimes relating to gender identity.

Westview Church offers the Living Waters program as a ministry and makes it clear that no therapy is involved. Being a church, the mission of a ministry is to promote Biblical values versus the scientific and societal values addressed in clinical therapy environments. There are, however, parallels to therapy. The program focuses on dealing with highly charged issues and members are encouraged to process through their past traumas together. Also, while the program is facilitated by members of the church, at least two group leaders hold advanced degrees in the area of marriage and family therapy and social work.

Reimer, who is a licensed marriage and family therapist and a licensed social worker, said she was able to remove her therapist “hat” to work as a small group leader in the program. Reimer said just to be certain, she asked her former clinical supervisor at K-State to look over the program to ensure it was not violating any code of ethics she upholds as a marriage and family therapist.

“I respect people’s right to choose what they want, and as a therapist you’re really supposed to keep your personal feelings out of that,” Reimer said. “I don’t go into that program thinking I’m a marriage and family therapist, but I am very cognizant of anything that I do that it would reflect on me and my profession.”

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27 comments

Ridiculous
Tue Dec 22 2009 13:28
Maybe they're the only program like this in Kansas because it's a ridiculous program to have in the first place. I feel like this is getting out of hand.. you're wanting to change someone's sexuality because it's not what you prefer... why can't people just be accepting for who you are. This is where I question people's religious views.. Doesn't God love ALL his children for who they are?? So what's wrong with these people you claim are "broken". They are not broken, they're living their life.
Albert Einstein
Mon Dec 21 2009 19:35
Any "church" which does not stand full force against the abomination of homosexuality, which tolerates homosexuality pleasantly; is NO church at all! It is simply a harlot church, as the one described in Revelation 17. This is a big issue which totally separates the God of Scriptures, and his followers, from all the pagans and heathens and other followers of false religions and atheists, agnostics and free thinkers. This antihomosexual position is held by all who of the tradition of the God of Abraham, which includes the jews, the christians, and the muslims. If you are prohomosexual, then you cannot be any real jew, real christian, or real muslim. All your attempts to argue otherwise are just so much hot gas in the Kansas wind. It quickly disperses and does nothing.
Doc Wildcat
Mon Dec 21 2009 19:24
Homosexuality is a learned abominable behaviour. Obviously, nobody is born that way. The attitude of this church sound ok. Homosexuality is a very sick, disgusting, and "broken" behaviour. I greatly appreciate the work of Pastor Phelps over at Westboro Baptist Church, in Topeka, on this subject. He has been a godsend to Kansas. We real Christians in Kansas are very grateful for his ministry in the area of speaking the truth about homosexuality, and his call to the people to repent.
Some Gay
Tue Dec 15 2009 23:20
The bible has always been fiction
AWW
Mon Dec 14 2009 12:07
I think the only people who are "broken" are the people who cannot see others as Christ does-and obviously Westview Community Chuch does not. If only there was a class for them...
Your name
Sun Dec 13 2009 17:24
It is so sad that this nation has become so worried about being "politically correct", that Christian values have flown out the window. Westview is not the only church that believes that homosexuality is against Christianity. Or has the Bible become fiction?
Gladys Hanna
Fri Dec 11 2009 09:41
Wow-no wonder so many GLBT people find it difficult to find a faith community where they are welcome. I hope everyone will remember that all Christians are NOT bigots and that there are churches in Manhattan that are open and affirming and that will welcome you with open arms. Churches like the Westveiw Comm. Church give all Christians a bad name. Even though I no longer live in Manhattan, I still enjoy coming home and visiting my friends at the First Congregational United Church of Christ. My family, which consists of myself, my partner and our son (yes same-sex couples can have babies too!) have always felt welcome there.
Your name
Thu Dec 10 2009 16:28
Mellotron, you are mis-guided. You mistake passion for hatred. Hate speech has a specific connotation and it is wise to show a line of reasoning when making such a claim. For example, Laura does exactly that. You show no line of reasoning to suggest that other commenters are filled with hate and expressing themselves as such.

When someone undermines change-oriented churches with their speech, this does not automatically allow one to conclude that these statements are a source of hate. Sound logical counter arguments are not hate. It is called a debate. I suggest you use your opportunity at K-State to take a philosophy class and understand the nature of debates and arguments.

BTW, if you think that media have no social responsibility in their reporting, you are wrong. Take the issue of suicides. They are noteworthy in their own sense and they can drum up readership with a tale of tragedy and despair. However, suicides are downplayed and generally under reported where possible. There is a strong link between exposure of suicides and increases in the number of suicides.

When the scientific evidence and appropriate professionals state that there is no clear evidence that sexual orientation can be changed and when their is evidence that such programs can be harmful to individuals, it IS the Collegian's social responsibility to make this known. This article carries no such warning. This would not be bias, this is called acting socially responsible.

K-State Grad Student
Thu Dec 10 2009 12:19
Reporting on such a controversial topic in an open-ended, even-handed manner is not an easy task for any journalist. Mr. Miller did an exceptional job with this piece by simply displaying the facts for readers to judge and evaluate. Excellent work.
Your name
Thu Dec 10 2009 10:53
"former homosexuals" lol, these sorry individuals are the "down low brothas" that craigslist is known for. Going back in the closet doen't make you straight. Get real!
Mellotron
Wed Dec 9 2009 23:34
Kudos to the Collegian for having the courage to cover this story, and to do so in a clear and neutral fashion.

But as you can see from some of the pro-gay comments, there are people out there who are ready to abuse and mis-use the concept of "hate speech", in a blatant attempt to bring pro-gay CENSORSHIP pressures against journalistic media like the Collegian.

I understand that gay activists want to eliminate "hate", but first they need to cut out their own intense hatred.
Please stop hating on change-oriented churches and resource groups, and also stop hating on former homosexuals. Start today, it's okay.

Your name
Wed Dec 9 2009 23:33
I wonder how many people mistakenly equate sexual orientation with who you *sleep* with as opposed to who you are *attracted* to. The only success that WestView may find in their so called conversions are gay people having hetro-sex. Considering how damaging such therapy is to the individual, I'd hardly call that a success.
Great Reporting
Wed Dec 9 2009 22:48
Ashley, KC, and Jill,

It is great to see that some people understand that responsible journalism does not choose sides; it reports the issue, the opposing sides and lets the reader make up their mind. This young reporter did a great job of remaining neutral on what is obviously a hot-button issue. The real shame is that the media in America has spent so many years reporting with bias that the public doesn't recognize that some people have the ability to be unbias. I'm sure Jason has his beliefs, but from reading this I don't see what they are, and I appreciate that.

Jill
Wed Dec 9 2009 19:04
Laura, I agree with KC. Take a minute to think about the stories that are frequently reported in newspapers. Rapes. Murders. Robberies. Things that the newspaper would never agree that people should be doing. When these stories are reported, the media doesn't say that they agree or disagree with it occuring, they just present the facts as they know them. You are mistaken when you say that reporting it without openingly disagreeing with it is in a sense agreeing with it. I believe that you are allowing your emotion towards this issue, cloud your thinking. Take a step back and replace the subject with something that is less controversial or that you are less passionate about and you will see that the Collegian is not taking a anti-LGBTQ stance by reporting this.
KC
Wed Dec 9 2009 18:49
Laura, I think that all good news should stive to be neutral. It is not the media's position to take a stance in either direction--that should be left to Editorials. When media allows itself to be biased towards one side or the other of any issue, the eventual end is propoganda--not the truth. Just because something is reported doesn't mean its agreed with. This article does a good job of presenting what is out there and then interviewing the opposing side and allowing them to be the ones to reproach the program. This is responsible journalism.
Laura Logan
Wed Dec 9 2009 17:05
Thank you for your thoughtful reply, Ashley. I too think there is value in knowing about the program but it is not possible to report about it without taking a stand. When news organizations present “news” that demonstrates hatred of one specific human characteristic or against an entire group of people with that characteristic – without making any kind of statement about the program – they implicitly suggest that the viewpoint is in some ways legitimate and newsworthy. The Collegian did not take a position against Westview Church’s dangerous program so it might seem they were being unbiased, except there’s no such thing. There is no neutral. One either supports or does not support hate. The absence of objection operates as acceptance.

Also, referring to someone's orientation as being "sexually broken" and in the same category as rape is not merely denigrating and hurtful, it is hate speech. And hate – in speech or thought – fuels hate action; it fuels violence. It seems to me that we must stand against those who perpetrate hate, explicitly, or find ourselves standing implicitly even if silently with them.

However, I appreciate good intentions. I do. They just mean more when they result in good outcomes.

ashley
Wed Dec 9 2009 15:56
Laura - I think that in context of the first two parts of this series it is clear that the Collegian is not condoning an anti-gay view point. I am glad that they ran this story because it reflects a milder (possibly, not many details about the actual program were given) side of what Swanson went through and serves to inform us that just because overt violence may be absent from a program, does not mean it is not harmful. Referring to someone's orientation as being "sexually broken" and in the same category as rape is still denigrating and hurtful, even though it is not overtly violent - this article shows another point on the religious spectrum of responses to LGBTQ and my guess is that the last two parts of the series will shift to religious communities that are welcoming of LGBTQ people. I think that there is value in knowing that there is a religious community in Manhattan that supports this kind of program - I do not think reporting on the program necessitates condoning it.
Shame
Wed Dec 9 2009 15:34
Reimer and anyone doing this kind of work who professes to be a social worker is operating in ways that violate the ethical standards of social work - in spirit if nothing else. They do not represent social work as a profession or as a discipline. Shame on them for using their professional status to lend credibility to the kind of mental, emotional and physical abuse that Westview Church packages as spiritual or therapeutic. Shame, shame, shame for the damage they do, the direct, unforgettable, deliberate and unconscionable damage.
AGD
Wed Dec 9 2009 15:26
I agree with Ashley -- the headline was misleading and almost steered me away from the column. Once read, I think it was a good follow-up to the previous two articles.
Your name
Wed Dec 9 2009 15:18
OH NO! People have anti-gay viewpoints!?!?!?!?! Let's cry about it.






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