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Local church welcomes gay community

Published: Friday, December 11, 2009

Updated: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:12

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Chelsy Lueth

Snow blankets First Congregational United Church of Christ on Poyntz Avenue, which performs same-sex marriage ceremonies and has an openly gay pastor.


Editor's Note: This is part five of a five–part series addressing the gay community and its relationship to organized religion. Part five focuses on a local church that welcomes the gay community to worship openly.  LGBTQI stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning and inter-sex.

As Westview Community Church set to offer its second session of the Living Waters program, which offers homosexual individuals counseling to become straight, Manhattan finds itself in a debate over whether such a program should be offered. Aside from conflicting religious views, therapists and others disagree about whether the program works and if providing such a service would only confuse and damage people seeking help.

"I don't think it's appropriate because it makes an assumption that there is something wrong with someone that has to be fixed," said Rev. R. Kent Cormack, pastor and teacher at First Congregational United Church of Christ.

Cormack, who is openly gay and in a same sex-marriage with the church organist, has been a pastor at First Congregational since 2000. He said his church performs same-sex marriages and encourages its congregation to recognize these unions.

Cormack said not all churches share the view First Congregational holds, but he takes great pride in his church's history of welcoming Christians of all sexual orientations, genders and races.

He said his church was specifically formed in Manhattan to support abolitionism, and he likes to think his congregation is on the forefront of people's individual liberty.

Deb Kluttz, the executive pastor at Westview Community Church, said the issue is about more than just the church's role. She said she feels some churches support societal views over biblical precepts. Furthermore, she said even therapists are becoming open to aspects of life that should not be taken so lightly.

Kluttz said she knows there are many therapists who would not see pornography as a sexual addiction.

"They would say ‘You just need to get more comfortable with it; you just need to look at it together,'" Kluttz said. "There are therapists that would promote it. To me that is kind of brainwashing, trying to change their belief about these things, and I just think there is a place inside that this does not feel right."

As a small, conservative city in the Bible Belt, Manhattan might be slower to expand the rights of gay citizens like other cities, but there are people out to change that.

Dusty Garner, senior in political science, has made it a personal mission to be a leader in the local gay community, which lacked unification a few years ago. Being from the town of Douglas, Kan., Garner said he knows all too well the stigmas of being homosexual in the Bible Belt.

"The big turning point for me in high school was when I started owning it instead of denying it to everybody," Garner said. "When people saw that I took pride in myself, then they started respecting me more."

Garner said he has been advocating for gay rights since high school and even had to fight to get his diploma in Kansas. Garner said many in the community felt being a homosexual meant one could not be morally upstanding and started a petition to stop him from graduating. The petition was sent to the school board because in 1994 the school's diploma had the phrase: "received the education necessary to be a morally upstanding citizen of the state of Kansas."

The school board rejected the petition, and Garner graduated with his peers.

Garner credits much of his strength to his family's support through the years — most notably his mom. He said his family is not very religious, but his step-grandmother did take some time to send him a letter once his mother announced Garner was gay.

"She sent me a list of Bible verses she had documented that said I was going to hell," Garner said, laughing. "I'm not much of a shrinking violet so I very promptly took a Polaroid photo of my baptismal Bible, sent it back to her and said, ‘Thanks, but I have my own.'"

Garner said many people in rural towns struggle to come out because they do not have the ability to see other people who identify as LGBTQI living fulfilled lives.

"I suppose part of it is human nature," Cormack said. "We are better at building fences than getting rid of them. There's something about human nature that even though we know it's not supposed to be that way, even though the scripture says it shouldn't be that way, we just like to feel like we're a little better, but that means someone has to be a little worse."

Cormack said people tend to stigmatize groups that are different.

On the opposite side of town, and this debate, Kluttz said she stands by her belief homosexuality is stated in the Bible as wrong and feels society is driving the notion that homosexuality is natural.

"You've got some churches that are embracing the beliefs of society, which are anti-biblical in a number of cases, and the embracing of homosexuality is one of them," Kluttz said.

Westview Community Church is not one of them,

"Then you have churches in town like ours that are saying ‘No, that is not natural, not normal, that is not even God's design for an individual or for a family,' and we would stand in opposition to that normalization," she said.

Kluttz said the distinction is very important to Westview Community Church and was an area it would not bend on.

As a nonreligious leader, Garner said he believes religious texts have good morals, meanings and intentions, but have a long-lasting effect when they are used against somebody to hurt them. He acknowledged there is a large LGBTQI community in churches, but in general the LGBTQI community, especially in the United States, has turned its back on religion because of negative experiences.

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18 comments

Your name
Fri Jan 1 2010 02:07
In the previous millennium, alchemy was abandoned.
And before that, we mostly abandoned the idea that to get the supernatural to help you out, you needed to sacrifice an animal.
So maybe this millennium, there will be an abandonment of this all too ambient mode of religion that can only run the gamut from hating the unfamiliar, to a saccharine tolerance of it.

Until there is a new sanity, every Christian will continue to pick up their copy of the Bible, open it, and see a million-word Rorschach blot-- and to then go forth and inveigh against us all as deviating from the divine plan that Rorschach has for our lives.

Folks, this is going to be a toughie.

devoted
Thu Dec 24 2009 15:48
Mellotron,

I won't waste my time arguing with you. I would suggest that you look up the greek words "malekos" and "arsenokoitis" which are the words in that passage from Paul's epistle that you cited and figure out how to get "homosexual" from that. Let's stop denigrating the Truth in the Bible by interpreting it so literally. A literal interpretation is simply not possible.

To those of the rest of you appalled by mellotron, I can assure you that all Christians are not like him/her. Please don't generalize one ignorant person's views to us all.

Mellotron
Wed Dec 23 2009 06:51
I wonder if Rev. Cormack does much preaching from the following Bible passage (from 1 Cor. chap. 6):

"9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God."

Hard to escape that one. Homosexual behavior is a sin -- a sin capable of blocking a person from having a personal relationship with God and going to heaven -- but Jesus Christ can clean it up and set a person free from that sin and give that person a new, non-homosexual life with God.

No, I'm not trying to preach. But let's be honest, Rev. Cormack IS a preacher. The ability of Jesus Christ to save, heal, and deliver people from ALL sin habits and reconcile us sinners back to God, is PRECISELY the kind of stuff that Cormack is supposed to be offering the people in Sunday morning sermons and Monday morning newspaper interviews. Christ the Savior, Christ the Healer, Christ the Deliverer, not one penny less.

Shackin' Up with the gay church organist, how is THAT gonna help struggling sinners (of all kinds) who are looking for God's salvation, deliverance and healing??

Look, times are hard. Life is short. Money is tight. Stress abounds. The people need, and want, churches where the Christians still believe the Bible and where Jesus Christ shows up himself and "makes a way outta no way." They don't want churches where you walk out the same way you walked in. They don't wanna hear people giving up and saying "Once Gay Always Gay" (or insert any other addiction there). They want a Jesus who actually DOES something for people, like He used to do in the Bible.

Christians and Clergy gotta make up their minds, make a choice. Can't serve homosexuality and Jesus at the same time. It's gonna cost pastor Deb Kluttz and Westview Church to offer the healing path they're offering, but they ARE taking the right path, that's for sure. Gotta offer the real Jesus to the people these days, or else close up shop and turn that nice church building into a Parking Lot.

Jake
Wed Dec 16 2009 18:57
Here's where many of you all are missing out how God works. Christians do not claim to be perfect. Part of faith is repentance. When there is sin in your life, you repent and take steps forward to prevent yourself from falling into that same sin again. No one is perfect, but it is possible to move forward. However, no one can fight sin by themselves-it is by the power of the Holy Spirit that we can walk with the Lord daily.

Where being gay comes into play is when you intently disobey a command of God, saying that you know better. If someone is leading other Christians, they should set the example. If they have sin in their life, they should repent, and move forward. However, condoning that sin basically ruins how the church is set up.

In the end, it is by grace that anyone who is following Christ has been saved-not by anything else. However, following Christ is more than an "amen." It's a total life commitment. Obedience comes out of love for God and not begrudgingly.

Just Wondering???
Mon Dec 14 2009 14:08
How do gays reproduce???
Accepting
Mon Dec 14 2009 14:08
I think it's interesting how all of these supposed Christians are on here saying that homosexuality is wrong and sinful. Of course, this is just one of their numerous judgemental characteristics. What I don't understand is how they are not practicing what they preach. I thought all of us were made in Christ's image? If this is so, why are so many Christians trying to "change" homosexuals to heterosexuals? It seems a little hyprocritcal, don't you think?

Bravo on a great series, Jason!

Raycol
Sat Dec 12 2009 18:13
While the Bible does prohibit sex between men (homosexuality), it can nevertheless be shown that the prohibition does not apply today when the sexual activity causes no harm. Also the prohibition does not apply today because it applied only to the ancient Israelite and Roman cultures. The Bible criticizes, but does not prohibit, sex between women. Full reasons for these conclusions are given on the Gay and Christian website (www.gaysandslaves.com).
Think
Sat Dec 12 2009 01:01
If it really would have been important and damning, don't you think Jesus would have had old Matthew and the gang say something about it, instead of leaving it to the secretary of an imperfect apostle, prone to ambiguous Greek.
Sue Strachman
Fri Dec 11 2009 18:18
Quite a series of articles, very thought provoking. Great work Jason and the Collegian! So many readers got involved and responded passionately! Good journalism starts us thinking.

Homosexuality goes back thousands of years, probably more; there are ancient Greek and Roman writings about homosexuality and by homosexuals. We are discussing its effects at one point in time, in one place, in one society and look at how much our opinions differ. I think we're lucky that we live in a society where we can have a public discussion of a controversial subject and express such differing opinions without fear of repercussion.

Question:
Fri Dec 11 2009 17:55
Shouldn't this article be entitled, "Local pastor teaches from the Bible?"
Andrew C
Fri Dec 11 2009 15:33
The one these articles failed to address is the issue of choice. Same - sex attraction may very well be natural in some people, however that is not an excuse to engage in sinful behavior. There is a difference between temptation and sin. And having a natural desire to commit a certain action does not mean that "is who we are". If I am tempted to steal something that is not sin nor does it make me a thief. I become a thief when I choose to steal and stealing is wrong regardless of how I feel about it. Same-sex attraction is not wrong nor does it make a person a homosexual. A person becomes homosexual when they engage in sinful behavior. Temptations are not sinful. Even Christ Jesus was tempted. However, regardless of our natural desires of the flesh or our temptations, we all still have the ability to choose to do the right thing.
Zach
Fri Dec 11 2009 15:24
Great series Jason.
Truth Seeking
Fri Dec 11 2009 15:20
This series was very biased and only presented one side of the story. Very upsetting. I was hoping to actually see some that provoking insights from both viewpoints to help educate people that are perhaps unaware of the issues and to bring about understanding of the feelings and beliefs of all parties. Instead, these articles were all slanted and sympathetic to only the LBGT community. Truly disappointing.
Sarah K
Fri Dec 11 2009 15:19
Since when is organized religion synonymous with Christianity? I was hoping that at least one of the articles would talk about the relationship between the gay community and Islam, Juadism, or another organized religion.
I am quite disappointed none of them did. Since the entire series focused on the gay community's relationship with Christianity, then that is what the editor's note should have said.
Gladys Hanna
Fri Dec 11 2009 12:49
Bravo to Dusty Garner, Kent Cormack and the First Congregational UCC and everyone else in Manhattan who works hard everyday to make sure there is a place at the table for EVERYONE!! Keep up the great work!
Amy
Fri Dec 11 2009 12:39
Excellent series, Collegian! It's great to see you reporting on such a controversial and important issue.
JD
Fri Dec 11 2009 11:29
Keep up the good work Collegian!
boarderthom
Fri Dec 11 2009 10:36
The problem with trying to convert gay people to a heterosexual lifestyle is that heterosexuals deserve to be married to truly heterosexual people. Societies that can not accept gay people have a lot of straight people married to closet cases.






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