Johnny T For KSU

Thu Dec 11 2008 15:58

Mark Erbacher, please tell me that KState isn't graduating people this stupid these days. Did you do ANY research on this or did you just want draft up something where you can throw in his middle name. Berg is a crackpot and the only thing he's proved is that anyone can sue anyone at any time in our great legal system.

There is no way this piece should have been printed. It's the ignorant blathering of a fool at best. With such deep lines of thinking that the author showed in this piece he'll have no trouble at all putting together our orders at McDonald's.

KSU Alum

Thu Dec 11 2008 10:06

Too bad we are arguing over the citizenship of such an intelligent man. I wish we could have yanked the citizenship of the home-grown idiot we have had in office for the past 8 years.

please

Wed Dec 10 2008 00:04

The point is that you have no evidence. Nobody owes you any proof that Hawaiian officials weren't bribed just because you have imagined a scenario where it could have happened. It is a fallacious and meaningless argument. The problem is in your mind: you have convinced yourself for no good reason that Obama was not born in the US, and you now require unreasonable and extraordinary evidence to change your mind. Fortunately, that's not how the legal system works in this country.

Your name

Tue Dec 9 2008 23:05

to rick, I could BRIBE anyone with a few thousand and they would say WHATEVER i told them to say. The fact is, Obama really messed with the American people during this election. What about far-right wing reps that found out one day that they had suddenly made a $3 grand contribution to the Obama cause? It happened, and not just to a dozen or two. They suddenly found out one day that $3,000 dollars got donated tot he Obama Campaign and whats worse, is that the Obama campaign did not even try to deny it! they replied in the affirmative and thanked the people and, when asked if they could have the money back, blatantly refused. If you dont believe me, check it out.

This article approaches a very vital point. If Obama can't even produce enough evidence to convince a left-wing life-long Dem that he is a natural-born citizen, He should be removed from office NOW and another election take place. Contrary to belief, the constitution does not say that only one election can take place every four years, only that Congress "may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States." Taken directly from a2s1 of the US Constitution

At least care enough to look

Tue Dec 9 2008 19:17

The legal aspect was completely misrepresented by this article. It is implied that Obama was required to respond to the accusations in Philip Berg's appeal to the Supreme Court last week and that he was somehow actively fighting that requirement. In reality, case 08-570 is Berg's last-ditch appeal to the Supreme Court after he lost in both US District Court and the US Court of Appeals. A petition for writ of certiorari is a plea to the Supreme Court to hear a case that lower courts already decided. The writ of certiorari would have been the (overwhelmingly conservative) Supreme Court's response had it decided to hear the case, which it apparently did not (and thank goodness).

At least care enough to look

Tue Dec 9 2008 19:15

It is unbelievable that this article, whether it was intended to be a report or a persuasive piece, could present this story without even a passing mention of the fact that this entire battle is a fringe movement that faces overwhelming evidence and that has been thoroughly dismissed by the courts and by mainstream conservatives. Hilariously, according to Slate, "Berg's last big lawsuits were filed in 2003 and 2004 on behalf of 9/11 skeptics that sought to uncover the Bush administration's complicity in the attacks." I'm sure such sacrilegious thinking would be appalling to the author.

At least care enough to look

Tue Dec 9 2008 19:14

This article leaves out a lot. For one, the state of Hawaii released a statement 6 weeks ago saying that officials had "personally verified" the state holds Obama's original birth certificate.

rick

Tue Dec 9 2008 17:03

Obama produced his birth certificate, the Health department confirmed he is registered & on file and the 1961 Honolulu Advertiser lists his birth. This is a silly conspiracy theory. Berg and his cronies all drink the same kool-aid, unfortunately they like it.

Alumni

Mon Dec 8 2008 12:27

I remember the Collegian being an excellent student paper back in 2000-2001. It has become a complete rag since then, slowly getting worse each year. It seems there are way too many right-wing amateur writers that take their inspiration from Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. Two people that never actually speak about facts, only right-wing Republican talking points. Please Collegian, could you get more liberal, or at least competent writers? This is plain embarrassing. Why don't you guys go ahead and write about rapture, or how the world is actually only 5000 years old? Or how that the Earth is flat? From the perspective of the editorial staff I assume these are all valid and debatable viewpoints.

Thomas Botzler

Mon Dec 8 2008 09:27

I have to admit, I made a mistake in my previous post. the "Concerned American" made a comment on Obama's name. to be exact," is named after a man who killed thousands of innocent americans (I wouldn't be suprised if he was related)" And I said that it would be Osama's killing of Americans did not happen prior to Obama's birth. My mistake, and his is this. Obama is a completely different name than Osama, therefore "concerned American" must be talking about the Hussain part of his name. And if that is the case, Saddam Hussain killed many innocent people, although not Americans. So I again apologize for my mistake. I would hope that "concerned American" would do the same...or would he be to ashamed to do so.

My name is Thomas Botzler, I am a concerned American

Mon Dec 8 2008 08:42

This is getting old "Concerned American" Should be ignorant American. You say he is Muslim, but then you say he is a member of a church with a radical preacher. Make up you small mind, is he Muslim or is he Christian? You say he was named after a terrorist, um I believe that Hussain is a fairly popular name in certain areas of the world, and more importantly I don't recall Osama bombing us prior to Obama's birth, so how exactly was he named for a terrorist. Oh, and I believe that we are fighting terrorists not Muslim's. If you know anything about the Muslim faith you'd know that like all religions the main tenent is peace and love. If you think all Muslims are terrorists you may want to open a history book and see what religions, and spiritual people have done in the name of god. For example, Protestants and Catholics in Ireland, the IRA (which reminds me McCain is an Irish name right? So is he a member of the IRA?) um lets see, the crusades, KKK members that use the bible to justify their beliefs? "Concerned America" try to use facts against the next president, instead of unfounded, idiotic and baseless attacks. If you don't like his tax plan, health plan or foreign strategy so be it. But your arguments are weak and uneducated. One final thing, if you are so ashamed of America, move.

A Concerned American

Sun Dec 7 2008 19:15

I really hope that this is an alligation made public to the people because I believe that if we keep us as president then we will no longer be a nation in 4 years we will all be slaves to this "wonderful"(sarcastic note) man. I still can not figure out how our country can be so IGNORANT and elect a MUSLIM(I thought we were fighting them) that is named after a man who killed thousands of innocent americans (I wouldn't be suprised if he was related). And also a man whou didn't care that his preacher said "God Bless America, No God F**K America" until he said it on national TV. If Our Country remains ignorant to these points and keep electing people like him then I will be VERY ashamed to call myself an American. I urge everyone who is reading this to think about the events of the election and see the HUGE sack of LIES that Barack HUSSEIN Obama has fed you. I really feel sorry for this country because no other country would elect a president that has the same religion as one they are fighting.

Tyler

Thu Dec 4 2008 14:46

I want to apologize to all the people from outside of K-State who have read this and think we're all this ignorant. I assure you, we're not.

To the people who think this 'opinion piece' holds the slightest bit of weight... try educating yourself, or even just use some common sense. If you go look at Docket No. 08-570, all it says is that Obama had until December 1st to 'prove' he was a natural born citizen TO THE CRACKPOT WHO FILED A PETITION. Of course he didn't respond and was never going to. There's your education, now how about some common sense: you REALLY think someone who not only ran for President but was elected hasn't been checked out by the appropriate authorities? Really? And if this evidence Berg has is so damning, were exactly is it? A video of Obama's grandmother saying he was born in Kenya? Really? I'd love to see that. (And don't link me to one of the YouTube videos of his grandmother saying he's a 'son of this village' because if you're trying to twist that to mean he was born there... well, you know how hard you're stretching just as well as I do).

Sad. Quite sad.

Cal

Thu Dec 4 2008 10:10

I applaud Mr. Erbacher and The Collegian for showing "freedom of speech" still alive and well in the U.S. of A. when larger main stream entities cower in their boots. MSM could take a lesson here. Thank you.

Al

Wed Dec 3 2008 19:19

Hey Joe Friday, if people in Kansas are so stupid, why did you post the same comment twice. You're the stupid one.

Joe Friday

Wed Dec 3 2008 13:34

I never realized how stupid people from Kansas could be.... until now of course.

Joe Friday

Wed Dec 3 2008 13:28

I never realized how stupid people from Kansas could be.... until now of course.

Derek

Wed Dec 3 2008 09:03

So you're telling me that the most powerful country in the world has been fooled by a faked up birth certificate? Something tells me that the US government has people who have gone and figured this out a long time ago. Like when he was running for Senate. Just a thought.

Your name

Wed Dec 3 2008 08:57

Angela, no I don't get how you have been a Republican, nor do I get imaginary men in the sky, or the free market - the friendly ghost. All I know is - PALIN 2012!!!!! Yoo-hoo

Alum

Wed Dec 3 2008 07:48

You Republicans supported a complete moron for eight years that completely wrecked this country and another. But I'm sure you're wise and that this is not just some partisan hack that just says, "Oh, I think his birth certificate is false." The state of Hawaii validated his birth certificate. Get over it. Obama won huge, unlike Bush who did not actually have the popular vote in 2000.